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Jun 24th 2013 new
In northern Ireland the Protestant faith is predominately Presbyterian not Anglican.

I think the main issue is that Obama and almost everyone else in the world keeps blaming religion. It has ZERO to do with whats happening in Belfast. Obama is just spouting the same song and dance that religion is the issue there and nothing else . They count on ignorance. Did anyone research the Northern Irish conflict before posting? no

the tactic works and keeps working.

So here is what really happened. England had conquered Ireland and many other places in the world by making shady deals with unsavory characters at home and abroad. Unwilling to fufill the promise of land to these bad sorts in their own country they granted them land in the beautiful by wild emerald isle. To this day they are bound by some of these promises as some had term including time and descendants. Most chose land in no. Ireland. that is why to this day the no. Irish are stuck with it and the other portion is free.

The native Irish happen to be Catholic. This provided a way to in essence kill two birds with one stone. Belittle Catholicism and the Irish all at the same time.

The Irish don't hate anyone. They just want to be able to be Irish in Ireland.

The bible warned us that the real battle was against princes and principalities.



Jun 24th 2013 new
(quote) Tracey-574123 said: In northern Ireland the Protestant faith is predominately Presbyterian not Anglican.

I think the main issue is that Obama and almost everyone else in the world keeps blaming religion. It has ZERO to do with whats happening in Belfast. Obama is just spouting the same song and dance that religion is the issue there and nothing else . They count on ignorance. Did anyone research the Northern Irish conflict before posting? no

the tactic works and keeps working.

So here is what really happened. England had conquered Ireland and many other places in the world by making shady deals with unsavory characters at home and abroad. Unwilling to fufill the promise of land to these bad sorts in their own country they granted them land in the beautiful by wild emerald isle. To this day they are bound by some of these promises as some had term including time and descendants. Most chose land in no. Ireland. that is why to this day the no. Irish are stuck with it and the other portion is free.

The native Irish happen to be Catholic. This provided a way to in essence kill two birds with one stone. Belittle Catholicism and the Irish all at the same time.

The Irish don't hate anyone. They just want to be able to be Irish in Ireland.

The bible warned us that the real battle was against princes and principalities.



Actually, we are both wrong.

As of 1993 the breakdaown of the Population in Northern Ireland by religious affiliation was:

Roman Catholic 35%
Anglican/Episcopalian 19%
Presbyterian 25%
Methodist 4%
Baptists 2%
Free Presbyterian 1%
Brethren 1%
Other Protestant 2%
All others 11%

As is obvious from the above, no religious denomination can claim a majority of the population as members. The largest single body if the Roman Catholic Church with Presbyterians in second place 10 but 10 percentage points behind the Catholic church. Anglican/Episcopalian in third place but by its affiliation with England probably enjoys the position as the official church if such a thing exists.

Since all non Catholic Christian Churches are considered Protestant Churches, one can say the majority of the population of northern Ireland is Protestant.

Your statement that the Northern Ireland problem (not just Belfast) is more than religion is accurate, but your description of the history involved, and by implcation other lands that England conquered is, to say the least, extremely fanciful.

Interesting side note, only 60% of Northern Ireland Catholics are interested in seeing a reunification with the rest of Ireland.
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Jun 29th 2013 new
My statement that the protestant faith is predominantly Presbyterian is accurate. Even by you percentages, wherever you pulled them from. I am not sure why you stated it was wrong.
As for the land statement. Continue researching. It is quite complex and it is unlikely everything you need to read, see and hear is on the internet.
I am glad you are digging deeper into it!
Jun 30th 2013 new
Yes I believe he wants us to have one religion - the one that involves praying to mecca 5 times a day.
Jun 30th 2013 new

I am a product of Catholic education without which I would not be the man I am today. I owe everything to the monks, nuns and priests who molded me from basically nothing....I have attended the best universities in the world....and would take personally (within reason) any criticism of Catholic education. In my book, it is revered education, that is delivered by the very best. However, Obama's quote that I reproduce below does not amount to criticism of Catholic education...The president was expressing something more fundamental, about the Irish nations coming together. In the same breath that he talks about Protestants, he talks about Catholics. He was trying to re-unite a divided people. To suggest otherwise is grotesquely sinful. Lets not fall into bigoted traps.

If towns remain dividedif Catholics have their schools and buildings and Protestants have theirs, if we cant see ourselves in one another and fear or resentment are allowed to hardenthat too encourages division and discourages cooperation, the President reportedly said during his Northern Ireland Visit for the G8 summit. - See more at: www.cardinalnewmansociety.org.
Jun 30th 2013 new
Karis,

It is really no surprise (at all) that you cannot find a single thing wrong with Obama's statements in Ireland. You have been completely gung-ho for re-electing Obama with his ultra-liberal, socialist, anti-life agenda for many, many months on this site. Perhaps others would do well to read your prior posts leading up to the November election. This can be done by clicking on the number of your posts (below your name). Perhaps you were part of Obama's re-election campaign team.

To suggest that it is "grotesquely sinful" and "bigoted" to read negative meanings into Obama's comments in Ireland (given all that he has done against Catholics and other Christians in the past 4+ years, plus extending of abortion rights even prior to that) is quite ridiculus and laughable.

Ed
Jun 30th 2013 new
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Jun 30th 2013 new
All of this is very disturbing as it is undermining the very foundation of the United States of America....Religious Freedom. Might I encourage all concerned to check out the Fortnight for Freedom which has been in progress with prayer, Masses, speakers, and a focus on uniting those of us who recognize the danger in a government that dictates, mandates, forces activity against religious beliefs (particularly Christian) and also begins forbidding, condemning or even punishing practice of religious beliefs, including education in Catholic Schools!

www.usccb.org
Jul 3rd 2013 new
(quote) Jack-752986 said: ... if Catholics have their schools and buildings and Protestants have theirs, if we cant see ourselves in one another ....
Would it save on rent and heating to see themselves in each other under one roof instead of two?

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Jul 3rd 2013 new
(quote) Maria-930320 said: All of this is very disturbing as it is undermining the very foundation of the United States of America....Religious Freedom. Might I encourage all concerned to check out the Fortnight for Freedom which has been in progress with prayer, Masses, speakers, and a focus on uniting those of us who recognize the danger in a government that dictates, mandates, forces activity against religious beliefs (particularly Christian) and also begins forbidding, condemning or even punishing practice of religious beliefs, including education in Catholic Schools!

http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/religious-liberty/fortnight-for-freedom/
thumbsup We need to pray, speak up, take action, NOW, or forever hold our peace.

Also know, if our government is allowed to take our religious liberties (which is what will happen if the HHS mandate isn't fought against), then freedom of speech will be next.
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