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Jul 8th 2013 new
(quote) Michelle-985969 said: I'm sorry Alex then if that was your intent. Thanks for clarifying.
Your welcome.
Jul 8th 2013 new
(quote) Michael-556947 said: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! 'Father, the atheists?' Even the atheists. Everyone! And this Blood makes us children of God of the first class. We are created children in the likeness of God and the Blood of Christ has redeemed us all. And we all have a duty to do good. And this commandment for everyone to do good, I think, is a beautiful path towards peace. If we, each doing our own part, if we do good to others, if we meet there, doing good, and we go slowly, gently, little by little, we will make that culture of encounter: We need that so much. We must meet one another doing good. 'But I don't believe, Father, I am an atheist!' But do good: We will meet one another there."
Very nicely said, Michael.
Jul 8th 2013 new
(quote) Marianne-100218 said: It really is turning out to be true what they say--when a person can't continue
with a discussion--they institute personal attacks. You have been doing that
all night.
I beg to differ. It is you who have personally insulting to me.
Jul 8th 2013 new
There a right and a wrong ....if your progressive/ liberal say so . Its so bad your so mis guided listening and following those socialist /Communist who are doing the devils work . stop being clueless to whats happening to this country and the world .
Jul 8th 2013 new
(quote) Michelle-985969 said: Exactly we Catholics are called to be obedient. Not everyone else.
Obedient to whom or what?

The natural law, the rule of conduct which is prescribed to us by the Creator in the constitution of the nature with which He has endowed us, applies to every human being that was ever born and every human that will ever be born. It is the same now as it was at the beginning of time, and it will remain unchanged until the end of time.

The ten commandments of the Decalogue, the instructions given to us in Scripture and through tradition, the moral teachings of the Church, etc. are all ultimately expressions of or explanations of the natural law.

Some Church laws are derived from the natural law; these are binding on all men. Other Church laws are disciplinary in nature, and as such are binding only on Catholics.


Jul 8th 2013 new
(quote) Michelle-985969 said: Jesus changed many of their laws such as healing on the Sabbath, For him, it was much more important to love than follow a law. Sir I don't know whether if it was the Pharisee's law or the Sadducees and really be a nitpicker about the issue shows something about you as a person.

Anyway my whole issue is that it is very dangerous to impose. The Church did in the past during the Inquisition and unfortunately that is what most atheists hate about Christianity.
The laws Jesus changed were laws were disciplinary laws that were instituted by men and not of divine origin (i.e., not rooted in the natural law).

Christ warned us that society will hate those who follow Him. While Christians have certainly made mistakes throughout the course of history, using how others feel about their actions as the basis for evaluating the merit of those actions is clearly incorrect and defies reason unless one rejects Scripture.



Jul 8th 2013 new
(quote) Michael-556947 said: If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under. Ronald Reagan
This statement reads entirely different if you miss the final period! laughing laughing laughing
Jul 8th 2013 new
(quote) Michelle-985969 said: No need to answer. I realized my mistake. Go back and please read my corrected post.
I have revised my previous response to remove the reference to the error you identified.

The change does not affect the fact that your assertion that suicide is technically murder is incorrect.

Jul 8th 2013 new
In response to this thread's title--Yes. Yet it is.
Jul 8th 2013 new
I meant "Yes it is".
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