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The ironic thing is, that for one who is arguing so forefully against imposing one's beliefs on others, that is exactly what you have been doing in this topic all evening. For unlike positions based on natural law, which are not personal beliefs but objective truths, the opinions you have been expressing have no such objective basis and this are just personal beliefs -- albeit very common ones.
The type of judgement forbidden to us is the judgement of a person and their soul, not the judgement of beliefs, especially those which one puts forward as being moral truths. In fact, we all have the responsibility to correct moral errors, especially when they are being taught to others.
The case of abortion is different in that you have an absolute obligation to at least petition your Government to make the murder of the most innocent of human beings a crime rather than promoting and forcing everyone to pay for these murders.
If you believe you are only responsible for yourself,then you are missing a major part of Christ's and His Church's message.
Cain killed Able and then added to his sin by saying, "Am I my brother's keeper?"
Anyway my whole issue is that it is very dangerous to impose. The Church did in the past during the Inquisition and unfortunately that is what most atheists hate about Christianity.
Were there abuses, yes, and the Inquisition in Spain seems to have had more than their share of those abuses, but on the whole, in that period of History people preferred being tried by the Inquisition Courts than by civil courts because they were more likely to receive a fair hearing.
You keep telling all of us to be more Christ like. But our Bishops begged all of us to be more Christ like in our voting choices and being unfairly constrained by the tax laws they went as far as they thought they could, but in the end, if if one approached what they had to say without any pre-formed beliefs, no Catholic, claiming to be a true Catholic, could have cast their ballot for Obummer and the Democratic Party. Yet 54% of voters claiming to be Catholic voted for him and his abhorrent to God policies. Who were more Christ Like?
Not even God does this. It's dangerous to become overzealous and become a religious despot.
This doesn't mean that we can't pass laws against immoral acts. And it doesn't mean the government should require individuals or businesses to pay for immoral acts or otherwise violate their consciences.
I wish someone could tell me if a person cannot afford insurance how can the government fine them, They took God out of the schools, I say put pray back in school, if the atheist, do not like it let them leave until the prayer is over, that want to take "under God" out of the pledge, If they do not like what we stand for Leave the country why do we have to conform to them...Obama should be kicked out like they did in Egypt...!!!!!!! We should take control of our country again....God use to Bless America but we are letting all of this happen... I never voted for him and I could not believe when he won a second term.....I believe all illegals should be sent back, if you want to come to America you have to learn English and you have to come the right way......
That interferes with good vision and reading ability at night.
Too much Government in America......The Government should spend its
time learning how to balance a checkbook, like the rest of America has to do.
And we are all called to God. "As he said Many are called only few are chosen"
We the people have to fight against Abortions, Gay marriages...... God Man Woman for a man. Not a man for a man or woman for a woman..... He created Adam, and Eve, not Adam and John or Eve and Jane....
Stand up Michelle for something or you will Fall for anything!!
Mr. Bummer has made it clear he despises Catholics and do us Catholics have a choice in ObummerCare when we are funding abortions, paying for birth control? Do you see the separation for church and government? Seriously???
This is how screwed up our country is. A minor has to have a parents permission before the age of 18 to get piercings, tatooes, vote, etc., but when it comes to birth control and/or abortions - The Parent Doesn't Have The Right To Know!!! Think about it! If laws are created, the young and innocent and impressionable believe that they are moral:(
Abortion definition: One Injured and One Wounded!!! There is no other way around it. It is Murder! Though Shall not Kill.
Also, Jerry, you are dear and true to your Faith, but I do have to disagree on suicide not being murder. It is murder of thyself. I've experienced it and the pain they leave behind, but it is murder.
So start defending our Mother Church, ugh!
In God We Trust
I am glad to hear from someone in your age group.
Pointing out personal traits/flaws of posters is not part of a discussion.
When a person does this, the tactic becomes truly obvious.
It is also a tactic used by many to deviate from the topic.