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Sep 12th 2013 new
Prayers for our misguided neighbors to the north.
Sep 12th 2013 new
Hi Melissa,

Thanks for posting and starting the conversation. The minority government's proposal is unconstitutional, and would never survive a Supreme Court challenge. I'm not the only person of this view either, a lot of legal experts think the same. Freedom of religion and freedom of expression are guaranteed by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

The federal government has indicated it would challenge the provincial government on this one if the province insists on moving forward with this poorly-though-out ploy to foment anti-religious sentiment to try to win votes. Also, it's alienating a lot of ethnic voters, which may backfire on them come election time. So, Quebec is picking a fight with Ottawa, (big surprise for a separatist government), in an attempt to make the federal government look like it is interfering with provincial matters. Fortunately, freedom of religion and freedom of expression are not just provincial matters.

People of all faiths should of course be deeply concerned that this half-baked horrible idea has made it this far, but it won't get much further. The Charter of Rights and Freedoms is a foundation constitutional document, and all laws passed in Canada have to conform to it. Praying for a just outcome to this situation is important, as many people will have to make important decisions, and may they be blessed with the wisdom necessary.
Sep 12th 2013 new
Time to round up the Quebecois nationalists and toss them all in prison like they did a generation ago.
Sep 12th 2013 new
Thank you so much Angela for your input and knowledge about the legal aspect of this serious matter. It is greatly appreciated. Also it helps us better understand what is at stake.


Sep 12th 2013 new
(quote) Jane-933948 said: Love Quebec

holy cats Batman here it starts....it has started some places here in the states, but they are trying to keep it quiet.
You want your local cop wearing a turban?
Sep 12th 2013 new
(quote) David-364112 said: Time to round up the Quebecois nationalists and toss them all in prison like they did a generation ago.
Let's not all put Quebecers in the same boat! I think this matter concerns essentially religious liberty ratter than nationalism. There probably is a hidden agenda behind this chart of values, but I don't believe that separatism/nationalism and this neutral laicity go hand in hand.

That's why we need to pray even more. The lines here are blurry. Lord God, please, let your voice be heard through your clergy, the media, your people, and whoever you choose to speak up for you. I believe that you will here our prayers because you are our Father.

Our Father, Who art in heaven
Hallowed be Thy Name;
Thy kingdom come,
Thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us;
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil. Amen.
Sep 13th 2013 new
(quote) Melissa-790653 said: There probably is a hidden agenda behind this chart of values, but I don't believe that separatism/nationalism and this neutral laicity go hand in hand.
I'm sorry I wanted to say : "There probably is a hidden agenda behind this chart of values, but I don't believe that separatism/nationalism and this neutral laicity go exclusively hand in hand."

Let's continue to pray that God's will may be done!
Sep 13th 2013 new
Perhaps I was too harsh on the Quebcois, but their unseemly stew of nationalism, socialism, and ridiculous extremes of social control make their political elite a very unpalatable bunch.
Sep 13th 2013 new
Quebec started out on the spirit of Vatican II even before Vatican II happened. Within a few years after 1959 Quebec went from being the most religious province to the least religious. Very similar to the experience of the Netherlands. No doubt that Quebec had its own versions of Alfrink of the Netherlands. I've never been able to find out much information on the Quiet Revolution, as the post Maurice Duplessis era in Quebec is called, but I imagine that very powerful churchmen were instrumental in tearing down the Catholic Church in Quebec. I've read everything I could find about the "Duplessis orphans"; not hard to come to conclusion that great evil had entered the Church in Quebec by the 1940s and 50s.
Sep 19th 2013 new
The majority no longer rules in society. All one has to do is proclaim that a yarmulke, a crucifix, a Sikh turban or a head scarf is offensive. I would draw the line with the Muslim burqa that covers all but the eyes, which to me is a symbol of oppression. Expressing one's faith is not the same as proselytizing, which should not be allowed in the workplace at all. No one is "offended" by these symbols. It is nothing but a secular PC power play, and we let them bully us, who far outnumber them.
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