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Nov 21st 2013 new
(quote) Linda-982758 said: Hi Evie
I would love to go to mass with you. It is St Catherine of Siena in Wake Forest!
The Bishop is having a special first mass this Saturday at 10 am. Long one though could be two hours.
Please let me know!
Hugs
Linda
There are numerous photos of your new Wake Forest church at....

stcatherinelivingstones.typepad.com

Ed
Nov 22nd 2013 new
I don't know why, but not sure I like it.
Nov 22nd 2013 new
(quote) ED-20630 said: A unique and beautiful rural church, with a communion rail in rural WA State....

This is one of my hometown parish churches (in the rural farming area of Colton & Uniontown, WA). The photos show how the church looks today. Note the communion rail and the change after Vatican-II (below).

Photo of exterior of St. Boniface Church, Uniontown, WA as it is today:

1st consecrated church in Washington State. Construction started in 1888, completed in 1905. Uniontown has a population today of only about 300 people.

https://www.google.com/search?q=st+boniface+church+uniontown+wa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=6GCOUomZFuaxiwLZt4HYCg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=636#facrc=_&imgdii=0V8D3j2Mk7h9tM%3A%3Bv2dfW4AQ1fy00M%3B0V8D3j2Mk7h9tM%3A&imgrc=0V8D3j2Mk7h9tM%3A%3B6yXW_mhEzvuaZM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fginger-snaps.us%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2009%252F06%252Fgingersnaps_bonifaceint.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ginger-snaps.us%252F2009%252Fst-boniface-interior%252F%3B800%3B532

Photo showing the front of the church as it exists today.

Note the communion rail is intact, except that there used to be a communion rail gate at the center. After Vatican II, the six marble pillars that composed the gate were removed and refashioned into the new low altar, which can be seen in the photo. Note also in the photo, that there are actually six altars at the front of the church (the high altar, the low main altar, and four small side altars.

https://www.google.com/search?q=st+boniface+church+uniontown+wa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=6GCOUomZFuaxiwLZt4HYCg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=636#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=0V8D3j2Mk7h9tM%3A%3B6yXW_mhEzvuaZM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fginger-snaps.us%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2009%252F06%252Fgingersnaps_bonifaceint.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ginger-snaps.us%252F2009%252Fst-boniface-interior%252F%3B800%3B532

Photo of high altar (as it is today):

https://www.google.com/search?q=st+boniface+church+uniontown+wa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=6GCOUomZFuaxiwLZt4HYCg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=636#facrc=_&imgdii=0V8D3j2Mk7h9tM%3A%3BsxfwpEBS69_pPM%3B0V8D3j2Mk7h9tM%3A&imgrc=0V8D3j2Mk7h9tM%3A%3B6yXW_mhEzvuaZM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fginger-snaps.us%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2009%252F06%252Fgingersnaps_bonifaceint.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ginger-snaps.us%252F2009%252Fst-boniface-interior%252F%3B800%3B532

Virgin Mary statue positioned at peak of roof above main entrance. I think that this is unusual, as I have never seen this on any other Catholic Church. This statue can also be seen in the first photo (above):

https://www.google.com/search?q=st+boniface+church+uniontown+wa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=6GCOUomZFuaxiwLZt4HYCg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=636#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=zYFfjfFjcTATXM%3A%3BXlA527xZBVPfgM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Ffarm6.staticflickr.com%252F5023%252F5617056622_07958f10e8_z.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.flickr.com%252Fphotos%252Fravenwalk%252F5617056622%252F%3B453%3B640


Ed

I love this church and stop in quite often when passing through. In the back of this church is a statue Of the Blessed Virgin Mary holding her crucified son Jesus and she has a tear in her eye, I think there are very few statues like this. I remember when I used to serve mass and we had to flip the white veil over the communion rail before communion and flip it back after communion. Priests have told me it is faster to give out communion when people are at a railing then when standing, I like the reverence part of kneeling.
Nov 22nd 2013 new
To allow women priests easier altar access.
Nov 22nd 2013 new
(quote) Dave-24315 said: I love this church and stop in quite often when passing through. In the back of this church is a statue Of the Blessed Virgin Mary holding her crucified son Jesus and she has a tear in her eye, I think there are very few statues like this. I remember when I used to serve mass and we had to flip the white veil over the communion rail before communion and flip it back after communion. Priests have told me it is faster to give out communion when people are at a railing then when standing, I like the reverence part of kneeling.
Hi Dave,

I know the statue that you of the Virgin Mary that you mentioned. It is very impressive. I believe that it is in the same location as the large baptismal font. I am impressed that (when building that church in the late 1800s) literally out in the middle of nowhere, that they were able to get all of the fine statues and altars to that location (probably by horse and wagon, maybe railroad) with everything intact.

Today, the practice (at St. Boniface) is generally to not use the communion rail (for serving communion), although I believe that I have vague memories of serving communion a few times at the communion rail at that church. That would have been about 1972-73. I think that they still use it (for that purpose) sometimes for more special occasions like 1st communion and perhaps weddings.

You may not know that there is a significant connection between the parishes in Uniontown/Colton, WA and Cottonwood, ID... the Benedictine Sisters. The reference web link in shown below, but here is some text copied from the article....

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"One of the other constructive but difficult characters in Uniontown's history was Father Anton Joehren. He started the project to build the existing St. Boniface church in 1888, but work stopped in 1892 due to a dispute between the priest and some parish members. The project was completed in 1905 under the leadership of a new priest. Because of his difficult nature, the Benedictine Sisters moved from Uniontown to the new parish in Colton in 1894 and then moved to Cottonwood, Idaho in 1906 and established the St. Gertrude Monastery."

www.uniontown.us
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I was an altar boy many times at St. Boniface Church, especially in 3rd and 4th grade, since grades 1-4 (of the Catholic school) were in Uniontown and grades 5-8 were in Colton. As altar boys, we always wanted to be the one to ring the large church bell in the steeple. It has a long rope descending all the way to the main floor at the back of the church. As a young boy the bell rope could practically lift me off the ground. The church bell at St. Gall's (Colton) didn't have the same thrill as it was/is a very large speaker in the steeple... Just push in the button for as long as you wanted the bell to ring, and it would start ringing about 10 seconds later.


Ed

Nov 22nd 2013 new
It was a deliberate attempt to diminish the sacred character of the altar, and was just one small part of the movement to make the Catholic Mass virtually indistinguishable from a Protestant worship service.
Nov 22nd 2013 new
(quote) Tom-267933 said: It was a deliberate attempt to diminish the sacred character of the altar, and was just one small part of the movement to make the Catholic Mass virtually indistinguishable from a Protestant worship service.
What absolute nonsense!
Nov 22nd 2013 new
(quote) Tom-267933 said: It was a deliberate attempt to diminish the sacred character of the altar, and was just one small part of the movement to make the Catholic Mass virtually indistinguishable from a Protestant worship service.
I would say "nonsense" to that too (as did Paul). Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof... not just conspiracy theories.

Ed
Nov 22nd 2013 new
(quote) Liam-1015033 said: To allow women priests easier altar access.
laughing laughing laughing
Nov 22nd 2013 new
(quote) Tom-267933 said: It was a deliberate attempt to diminish the sacred character of the altar, and was just one small part of the movement to make the Catholic Mass virtually indistinguishable from a Protestant worship service.
So true!
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