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Saint Thomas More was martyred during the Protestant Reformation for standing firm in the Faith and not recognizing the King of England as the Supreme Head of the Church.
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Jan 25th 2014 new
(quote) Paul-1049651 said: It does seem odd. But then you'd have to say that God is not all-knowing, which seems odd too. If God is not all-knowing, is God God?
Here's another way of looking at it. Say you know someone so well that you are certain she will choose a trip to New Mexico this spring rather than a trip to Seattle. You feel this with certainty even though she has not thought about either yet. Time passes, and she does in fact choose a trip to New Mexico. You were right -- not purely by luck but on the basis of your knowledge. Her choice was still her own -- you didn't make it for her telepathically, you didn't even influence it. Even so, your knowledge of her, though it proved very reliable in this case, is still infinitely or almost infinitely less than God's knowledge of her. So if she will turn into a serial killer one day, by her own choice, it's easy to see that God would know that ahead of time. Where's the difficulty?
And if a tree falls in the forest...
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Jan 25th 2014 new
(quote) Maura-1030942 said: And if a tree falls in the forest...
....Well, up here, a lumberjack is probably involved.
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Jan 25th 2014 new
(quote) Tom-112790 said: really Paul?? Why would God create a being in his image who He loves that He knows beforehand will spend eternity in hell??--Forget the shaky analogies. We have no idea .Thats all speculation about God--who we have no idea how to understand except thru love.We cannot intellectually understand Omniscience,eternity,infinity.

Enfin - nous avons compris une idee plus haute que les autres.
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Jan 25th 2014 new
(quote) Paul-1049651 said: ....Well, up here, a lumberjack is probably involved.
laughing
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Jan 25th 2014 new
(quote) Paul-1049651 said: ....Well, up here, a lumberjack is probably involved.
Therefore, one could infer, with some but not entire certainty, that somebody heard?
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Jan 25th 2014 new
(quote) Paul-1049651 said: I'll choose "Theoretical" for $50.
Much safer hedge.
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Jan 25th 2014 new
I highly recommend reading the book of Romans- "Why did God cause pharoh's heart to be hardened?" Paul asks. If he loves us all. Who are we as vessels of clay to ask the potter "Why am I made into a vase for special use and another into a common pot?" God uses both to display his kindness and mercy. And we as gentiles should consider ourselves blessed to be en grafted into the tree of life-Christ. God has expanded his grace beyond his chosen people the Jews- who indeed were blessed above all else before the new covenant. And even now still God patiently waits for the full remnant of jews and gentiles to seek him out
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