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Feb 24th 2014 new
The U.S. mailed in that game yesterday. They have a reputation for doing that in the Olympics. They're very much a "Gold or Nothing" team that doesn't do very well once they're out of gold medal contention. That's why I think every medal they've won since 1960 has either been a gold medal or a silver medal that they won by losing in the gold medal game.
Feb 25th 2014 new
(quote) Tom-267933 said: The U.S. mailed in that game yesterday. They have a reputation for doing that in the Olympics. They're very much a "Gold or Nothing" team that doesn't do very well once they're out of gold medal contention. That's why I think every medal they've won since 1960 has either been a gold medal or a silver medal that they won by losing in the gold medal game.
I just looked it up, and it actually goes farther back than that. The last (and in fact, only) bronze medal for the U.S. men's hockey team at the Winter Olympics was in 1936. And the only gold medals were in 1960, and the "Miracle on Ice" team in 1980.

Every other time when the U.S. men's hockey team has won a medal at the Olympics, it's been silver: 1920, '24, '32, '52, '56, '72, 2002 and 2010.

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Feb 25th 2014 new
(quote) Edward-4511 said: I just looked it up, and it actually goes farther back than that. The last (and in fact, only) bronze medal for the U.S. men's hockey team at the Winter Olympics was in 1936. And the only gold medals were in 1960, and the "Miracle on Ice" team in 1980.

Every other time when the U.S. men's hockey team has won a medal at the Olympics, it's been silver: 1920, '24, '32, '52, '56, '72, 2002 and 2010.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_men%27s_national_ice_hockey_team

It's worth noting that for both of their gold medal wins, the United States Flag men's hockey team had "home ice advantage". The 1960 games were in Squaw Valley, California, and 1980 was of course famously held in Lake Placid, New York.
Feb 25th 2014 new

USA's original but unheralded "Miracle on Ice" (1960 Winter Olympics)


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Feb 25th 2014 new

It's worth noting that the structure of the Olympic hockey tournament changed in 1992, so it's not easy to go back to the 1920s and try to figure out how the U.S. managed to win its medals. When the U.S. won the gold medal in 1980, the tournament was a round-robin format where the 12 competing teams were divided into two groups of six, and each team played the other five teams in its group in the preliminary round. Then the top two teams in each group advanced to the medal round, and the four teams in the medal round played a round-robin format against each other, with the one game they had already played against the other team from their group already counted in the standings.

In 1980 the U.S. and Sweden played to a tie in the preliminary round and finished in the top two positions in their group, so they started the medal round with an 0-0-1 record and they each had to play two games (one each against the top two teams in the other group). The Soviets finished the preliminary round with a 5-0 record and Finland finished second with a 3-2 record, and since the USSR had beaten Finland in the preliminary round the two teams went into the medal round with 1-0 and 0-1 records, respectively. That's why the Soviets could conceivably have won the gold medal even after losing to the U.S. -- because if the Soviets beat Sweden in their second medal-round game and the U.S. lost to Finland, the Soviets would have been 2-1 in the medal round and the U.S. would have finished 1-1-1. So it wasn't always clear who won the tournament and who won the silver and bronze medals until all of the games were played, which means a team focused on getting the gold usually had a strong incentive to play hard in ALL of their medal-round games. There was no such thing as a "gold medal game" and a "bronze medal game" back then.

The format was changed in 1992 so that the medal round was a traditional tournament bracket instead of a set of round-robin games. The top teams from the preliminary round advanced to the quarterfinals, and the quarterfinal winners played in the semifinals, etc. So now there's a much better chance that a scenario might unfold where the best team in the tournament beats the second-best team before the gold medal game ... which means the second-best team might end up out of gold-medal contention before the gold medal game, and winning a bronze medal at best.

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