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Saint Peter's Square was created so that more people could be in the presence of the Pope and was named after Saint Peter, one of Jesus's apostles.
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Jun 22nd 2014 new
(quote) Charles-976166 said: Gives a new perspective to the separation of Church and State debate.
Why, yes it does.

It's hard to believe the bishops tolerate it. Compare and contrast to the US. Can you imagine pastors keeping a list of folks who didn't give enough and then barring them from receiving holy communion???

Here in the US ministers take the Blessed Sacrament to prisoners. Do they do the same in Germany but deny those who did not pay the tax???

There are those who say that tax-exempt status of churches in the US (which I believe is just based on nonprofit status) results in, or may in the future result in, churches having to "toe the line" on issues like gay marriage.
Jun 25th 2014 new
(quote) Devan-877827 said:

Absolutely. Pope Benedict XVI raised this point many times in his pontificate, and although many liberals turn starry-eyed at the misbegotten prospect that Pope Francis' more pastoral (and I suppose, gentler)approach amounts to an abnegation of his predecessor's teachings, it's nevertheless very true today:

"In his Angelus address Sunday, Pope Benedict XVI spoke of Judas betrayal of Christ, saying that Judas problem was failing to leave Christ when he no longer believed a falsehood, said the Pope, which is a mark of the devil.

Judas, said Pope Benedict, could have left, as many of the disciples did; indeed, he would have left if he were honest. Instead he remained with Jesus. He did not remain because of faith, or because of love, but with the secret intention of taking vengeance on the Master. "

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pope-suggests-its-best-to-be-honest-and-leave-the-church-if-you-don...

Your last link doesn't work.
Jun 26th 2014 new
(quote) Marita-847688 said: Your last link doesn't work.
William Barclay, who was something of a heretic but still a fine Biblical expositor, noted that Judas's motive may have been 'to force Jesus's hand'. On this intriguing hypothesis, Judas didn't believe that Jesus would actually be killed - he thought that, when forced into an unavoidable conflict with the Romans, he would have to show himself the Messiah along the usually accepted Jewish lines - triumphing over the heathen, leading an insurrection, restoring Jewish independence and reigning as the long awaited Just King. Such a view would have required Judas to be deaf as to what Jesus's message had been all along, but there is, after all, some evidence that the Twelve WERE often a little dense about that. But when Jesus died on the Cross Judas's politico-religious hopes died too, and there was nothing left for him but the noose.
Jun 26th 2014 new
(quote) Marita-847688 said: Your last link doesn't work.

That's funny because I just pulled up the site a second ago. You can find it if you do a google search, but here's the link again.

www.lifesitenews.com.

Jun 26th 2014 new
(quote) Marita-847688 said: Your last link doesn't work.

Something about when it's posted here, it doesn't load properly. This is the name of the story.

"Pope suggests its best to be honest and leave the Church if you dont believe: HLI priest"

Jun 26th 2014 new
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Jun 26th 2014 new
(quote) Paul-1049651 said: William Barclay, who was something of a heretic but still a fine Biblical expositor, noted that Judas's motive may have been 'to force Jesus's hand'. On this intriguing hypothesis, Judas didn't believe that Jesus would actually be killed - he thought that, when forced into an unavoidable conflict with the Romans, he would have to show himself the Messiah along the usually accepted Jewish lines - triumphing over the heathen, leading an insurrection, restoring Jewish independence and reigning as the long awaited Just King. Such a view would have required Judas to be deaf as to what Jesus's message had been all along, but there is, after all, some evidence that the Twelve WERE often a little dense about that. But when Jesus died on the Cross Judas's politico-religious hopes died too, and there was nothing left for him but the noose.
I can't say that I agree with Barclay, given the number of times Christ prefigured His suffering and death, and that, even if at first some of the disciples misunderstood the real presence and the institution of the Eucharist, he said that His mission on earth was to be handed over to the authorities and bear the weight of man's sins, in one form or another. In other words, that he was to be sacrificed. To your point however, even Peter thought he could spare Christ this cruel fate by fighting the temple guards in Gethsemane.
Jun 26th 2014 new
(quote) Devan-877827 said:

Something about when it's posted here, it doesn't load properly. This is the name of the story.

"Pope suggests its best to be honest and leave the Church if you dont believe: HLI priest"

Pope suggests its best to be honest and leave the Church if you dont believe: HLI priest

tinyurl.com
Jun 26th 2014 new
(quote) Carol-1007500 said: Agreed, organized religion in the US is at an all time low. And to the extent that religion is an industry - no congregants, no church, no mission. Christianity is at an impasse. From an evolutionary theology perspective, a more unifying approach is needed to survive.
What?A One World Religion?
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