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December 10th, 2011 - John-43975 said:

Just an FYI that there will be locals coming to the outing that are not members of CM


December 4th, 2011 - John-43975 said:


Good question re: Mass. Each year we've playied it by ear for those attending. If they want to go the vigil Mass, then we make sure we leave in time to attend, but if no one wants to go the vigil Mass, then wil might be more casual on when we arrive at the shrine. The key, of course, is that if you are meeting us at the shrine to call me on my cell when you are then. That way we can coordinate meeting with everyone else.