September 17th, 2011 - Freddie-714102 said:
wow, no less than 27% of us here on catholic match are statists. too bad.
and to Marie's argument, there's nothing that says you have to drive a car, so purchasing car insurance truly is optional, whereas if you breathe, liberals want the government to compel you to buy health insurance as a condition of living. that is tyranny, and auto insurance is not an equivalent practice or issue.
March 8th, 2010 - David-432594 said:
Just a quick mention per the world health organization rating;
This ranking's criteria are different then what we expect in current health care. For instance, I believe it is Germany who is rated to have a lower new born mortality than the US. There is a hitch here, in the US we count every child born or a pregnant mother who deliveres earily, and if that child dies we indicate it as a newborn mortality, hence our stats, according to WHO, goes down. These other countries may not count the death of who we call a new born untill that child has either survied the first month out of the womb or made it to year one. S
SO these world health org's numbers are based upon each indiviaual's country's standard of retporting. When we place the other countries equal to our HIGHER standards and moral expectations these other countries fail miserably.
Well, that is if you choose that our country should also "change" our defiintion of moral and quality health care. We need to fix our HEALTHCARE repayment/competativeness, but not our healthcare system or structure of our Government to allow health care for one another.
February 16th, 2010 - Jean-543872 said:
I think they should have looked for a way to solve the economy crises first. The health care was'nt exactly the first thing that came to my mind. You can't pay for a bill that costs a million, billion, trillion, ka-zillion dollars, without having a million, billion, trillion, ka-zilion dollars. ;p
January 11th, 2010 - John-221057 said:
Here is the World Health Organization's ranking of the health care systems of the world, but I'll just give you the top 40.
3 San Marino
18 United Kingdom
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
36 Costa Rica
37 United States of America
41 New Zealand
Happy New Year to you too, Stephen. God bless and all the best. :-)
January 6th, 2010 - John-221057 said:
How is a universally accessible health care system class warfare? And what do you know about Canadian health care other than what you've been told by the Republicans and the insurance industries?
Canada's system isn't perfect either. It has many flaws and I can name a lot of things that are wrong with it. But in Canada you don't have to worry about going bankrupt if you get sick or dying because you can't afford health care. When you need health care, you get it. You don't have to worry about how you're going to pay for it. In short, it is far superior to the American system. I fail to see how this is class warfare.
Sarah Palin ran her mouth about death panels. But she didn't mention that there already are death panels in your country. They are the board of trusties for insurance companies. They are the ones who make the decision of whether or not you can have a procedure done. Many people die because they decided that they would rather save the insurance company money rather than fund the care that sick people need. If that's not a death panel I don't know what is.
Your government has trillions of dollars to spend on the military and overseas wars. They have the money to spend on death and destruction yet come up with all kinds of excuses of why they can't spend money that helps people.
Some facts about Canada:
- On the whole Canadians are healthier than Americans
- Canada's life expectancy is higher
- Canada's child mortality rate is lower
- More Canadians than Americans have access to a family doctor
- Canada spends less than half of what the US spends on health care yet gets better results, as the above facts demonstrate
And in my country even the most right-wing governments support universal health care and would never take it away.
December 28th, 2009 - John-221057 said:
All of you people who cry socialism and oppose government-funded health care have never gotten sick and actually needed an expensive proceedure done, assuming that most of us here are middle class. Just wait until it happens or you know someone who gets sick and then your HMO comes up with a reason why they can't insure you.
That is not freedom, Ken. I call that oppression.
December 13th, 2009 - John-221057 said:
William, only rich people go to the US to get health care. How can you possibly afford American health care unless you are wealthy? Some medical procedures cost as much as a house. I'm guessing that you have never had to have an expensive procedure done and don't know anyone who has. If you ever get into this situation or know someone who has, then you'll start seeing things my way. Or maybe you're rich and could afford to come up with half a million dollars just like that if you needed long-term care.
December 7th, 2009 - John-221057 said:
Do you lot know that the United States is the only first world industrial country that doesn't have universally accessable health care?
I live in Canada, and while our system certainly has its problems and is by no means perfect, I never take for granted the fact that if I get sick or injured I will get care without going bankrupt and will not die because I can't afford care.
My grandfather had cancer and underwent treatment for many years. In the US that would have easily cost millions of dollars and there is no way that we would have been able to come up with that kind of money.
The system you have right now is unfair, not right, and not Christian.
I don't know how some of you can all yourself Christians yet have such a selfish attitude towards people less fortunate.
November 29th, 2009 - Matt-508070 said:
A public option has not help cut costs here in Massachusetts. I see it as just a way to eventually force a single payer system on Americans and that is bad because that will lead to essentially no competition, thus dramatically lowering quality of care perhaps even leading to rationing and leaving all but the wealthiest Americans with no other option.
November 11th, 2009 - Thomas-505056 said:
Tort reform is important, so long as the system that replaces it ensures that the victims of malpractice don't have to pay the resulting hospital bills. That said, it is but a drop in the bucket compared to the severely twisted incentives doctors have. Tort reform involves state law (not federal law) and piecemeal efforts to put it into place have been made across the country, but there is little correlation between states that have enacted tort reform, and lower medical costs. On the other hand, all of the proposed versions of the public option would rely entirely on charge premiums, and not taxes. Thus, if government is too inefficient to compete with private insurance, it won't make a difference, but if the insurance companies are gouging us (and forming virtual oligopolies) it will at least make things better. So why not at least give it a try? (All of this assumes it doesn't involve taxpayer paid abortions.) Put differently, if the Republicans are right and government is more inefficient than insurance companies, the public option will fall flat on its face with no cost to the taxpayer, embarrassing the Democrats. If they're wrong, then at least we get cheaper health care.
November 4th, 2009 - Joe-180233 said:
Everyone should understand that a public option is in no way fair competion with the private sector. The government sets the rules and has no measure of success. They can never fail or go out of business like the private sector would do, and does, when they don't keep enough of their costumers satisfied.
November 2nd, 2009 - Elle-411254 said:
Health care does not need reform. The health care insurance industry needs the reform, but their lobbyists have congress in their pockets. The figures are vastly incorrect for the numbers of Americans without any "health coverage". Such a joke. If the current proposals are enacted, there will be an exodus of the most qualified medical providers. The wait for care will be 10x as long, and those who are in need of the most urgent care will be singled out for natural law to take effect..
October 22nd, 2009 - Edwardo-279510 said:
Tort reform is Not the answer. Texas is a prime example, Med Malpractice caps were put into place years ago and guess what.....medical cost have continued to go up. So, protect victims rights and reject more stringent tort reform!! This is just big business (insurance companies) putting a spin on the problem to lower their potential liability.
October 20th, 2009 - KarenAnn-468879 said:
Be careful. Health care reform also includes a 50 billion dollar cut in Medicare benfits to the elderly. I disagree with cutting benefits to elders who have earned it so that we can give it to people who want health care handed to them. Change is neccessary---but robbing from Peter to pay Paul is just plain wrong. What happened to ' honor thy father and thy mother"?
October 17th, 2009 - James-369813 said:
No Abortion bailout!!! Keep abortion out of Health Care!!! Abortion is not Health Care!!!
No tax payer funds to Planned Parenthood. No to Goverment run Health Care.
States Rights. Subsidiary (Decisions should be made at the most local level) Pope Ben. XVI
October 14th, 2009 - Mary-105867 said:
I would love to choose a couple of answers on the poll. Tort reform would need to address the "sue happy" attitudes as well as realistic settlements. Consumer involvement is needed but unbiased and balanced education is important to create intelligent choices and participation. True competition by independent doctors would be a nice touch as well. Hard to do when the seemingly empty pockets can sustain artificially low consumer costs longer than an independent can stay in business. We have a ball of yarn that needs re-wound!
October 13th, 2009 - Margaret-470845 said:
If you want socialized medicine moved to England were women are not get the life saving medicine they need for Breast Cancer and Men for Prostrate Cancer, or any Cancer for that matter. Also women are giving birth in hospital hall ways, stairways, and bathrooms in England because there are no more beds, and if the baby comes early they won't help you. In Canada you have to wait 2 years for treatment depending on the area where you live because they don't have enough doctors for their system and its bankrupting Canada. I have a cousin who married a Canadian and he moved here to the US along with his kids so they could have a better live, and had to get his mom so that she could be treated for breast cancer that she was told she would have to wait one year for surgery to see if the tumor was cancerous or not and if it was another year for treatment. This is not what the Catholic Doctrine implies, systems like that in Canada and Europe don't work and are very expensive not free. Our country is so great because we have control over our own lives and are free to make our own choices, this bill passes and you can kiss that goodbye because uncle Sam will tell you that you are no longer in charge of your health decisions.
October 11th, 2009 - Mike-370396 said:
The government is here to protect us and keep us safe. Eg; Police Fire Protection, Military,etc.
How about if our government would overhaul the FDA to help the citizens understand that nutrition is the only thing that will sustain a healthy body and an immune system that resists invasion. Right now our health care folks are shooting a biochemical up the nose of children and unsuspecting adults all in the name of preventing the flu. (The swine who are promoting this atrocity should be shackled in the public square.)
Like any insurance, if they have it, wouldn't many tend to ignore their nutritional needs knowing that the doctor can fix anything from stomach ache to replacing body parts?
At the "Sermon on the Mount", do you think that Jesus would have ordered in from McDonald's to feed the multitudes?
Both of you Michaels are right on about the government. They are the problem, not the cure.
God bless those doctors who genuinely care about us over the drug companies profits.
October 10th, 2009 - Richard-101481 said:
Well this is certainly a hot button issue for citizens of the United States.
As a Canadian I view the debate with a high degree of interest. What works in Canada may not work in the US at this point. The message is to find a method that works for your citizens. Likely it is a mandatory insurance combined with legal reforms.
I do want to note that one of the principles of our faith is a social conscience - caring for others and the world. I do believe in the single payer (taxpayer) system in Canada, however recognize that the United States has a different mindset towards government in general (less is better), and public intervention by the government is less than desirable, even though this intervention may bring back health to another person.
You will find your own way, and that may mean no change at all.